Altering the Bible

One of the common arguments against the authority of the Scriptures is that it has been altered and changed over the years.  Now, thanks to this text, we know, for certain, that at least the first chapters of Leviticus have remained consistent.

It's The End of the World As We Know It: The Rapture, Pt. 1

Few things get theologians more riled up than asserting that The Rapture is going to happen at a time different than what they, themselves, may believe.  I've seen people get vicious.  Which is interesting, when you really think about it, because the Bible seems to give us a pretty clear picture of when the Rapture takes place.  Now, I'm not talking about date-setting, because we don't know the exact hour or day - not from where we are right now (Matthew 24:36).  Date-setting is heretical.  But. . . .

. . . Jesus does tell us, numerous times, to watch and be ready.  Watch what?  If it's impossible to have any idea, whatsoever, when He's coming back, then why watch?  And what, exactly, does watching and being ready actually mean?

Let's look at a few things that Jesus has to say about this:

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree:  As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.  Even so, when you see all these things [Matthew 24:1-31], you know that it is near, right at the door" (Matthew 24:32-33).

What's His point?  "Look, you know how to read the signs of the fig tree, so learn to read the signs of the world."

"But understand this:  If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.  So you must also be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect Him" (Matthew 24:43-44).

There are two ways to interpret this.  The first seems pretty straightforward:  "the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect Him."  In other words, you don't know when He's coming, so be ready.  But look at Jesus' "If" statement:  If you knew about what time someone was going to break into your home, wouldn't you be ready for it?  Therefore, Jesus says, be ready - be ready, just like the guy who knows when the thief is coming.  Sounds an awful lot like we can have a general idea, doesn't it?  But then He tacks on that weird clause:  "because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect Him."  As I said, I think most of us take that to mean:  it could be any day.  But when we take it in context of what Jesus has just finished saying ("watch for the signs, just like you watch the fig tree" and "be ready, just like the owner of the house who knows exactly when the thief is coming"), then Jesus may not be saying, "It could be any day, maybe in the next five seconds."  What He might be saying is that lots of people are going to give you lots of opinions, but check them to make sure they are Scriptural, because there will be enough in the Scriptures for you to know when the time will be - again, not necessarily the day or hour, but a general concept of what to look for.

Let's reiterate, this is not date-setting.  Take a few months and read through the Bible, and you'll find that, not once, does God give us a date.  Never.  Not once.  If you see someone tell you that the Rapture will happen by, say, the 3rd of October, 2017, run from them.  Flee their teaching:  it's wrong.  God does not give us a specific date.  He does, however, give us a whole lot of stuff to look for, and some of it is pretty specific, specific enough that we can, if we are familiar with the Scriptures, say, "Yep, the time is getting nearer."  I can look, for example, and see our world moving ever-closer to a one-world economy.  The U.S. economy can't keep going the way it is - collapse is inevitable.  Parts of Europe and Asia are experiencing collapse in several markets - and our economies are so closely linked that, should the American economy actually collapse, most of the world will follow.  That seems, to me at least, to be a good time to implement a one-world economy, like we see in Revelation 13:16-17; when the Old Order collapses, usher in the New Order.

The world - even as the Gospel is spreading throughout the planet - is growing ever-more intolerant of Christianity.  In places like China, which has always persecuted the underground Church, persecution is stepping up.  We've watched, for a couple of years now, as ISIS has gone after Middle Eastern Christians.  In America, laws are being passed that are making it illegal to hold certain viewpoints as a Christian - our religious freedom is being systematically removed.  We're certainly not being executed, so I'm not comparing our plight with believers in the Middle East, but what we're seeing here is a precursor to that.  Even now, in light of the recent shooting in Orlando, we see people blaming Christians for the act of a Muslim; this is the quintessential definition of "scapegoat."  So when we read that The Beast from the Abyss wages war against, and conquers, Christians [Revelation 13:7], I can see our globe moving ever-closer to that scenario.

But these are all theoretical, and things could certainly turn around, so let's move on to something more tangible and Biblical.  Now, I'm about to wade into some potentially dangerous waters, so please hear out what I have to say, and then I will give some rationale for this:  true, Jesus did not know when He was returning while He was here on earth - He said it Himself.  But that doesn't mean that He's still ignorant of it.  If, after His Ascension, after He received His glorified body, after He was given authority of Heaven and Earth, He still does not know when He's returning, then does He really have all authority?

Now, the reason I call this dangerous is because it could lead to some of us thinking that the Bible cannot be trusted.  Here's the potential argument:  "Well, if Jesus didn't know about His return, but now He does, then He could have been wrong about other things."  But here's the deal:  Jesus wasn't wrong about His return when He said He didn't know the day or the hour, He simply didn't know - and He told us as much.  This wasn't a mistake on His part, but an open honesty about His own human limitations, limitations that have no evidence, whatsoever, of spilling out into any other area of His teaching.  Remember, Jesus taught with great authority, but He could also only say what the Father told Him to say (John 8:28).  This isn't an issue of Jesus being wrong, just an issue of Jesus - as a man - having limited divine knowledge.  Therefore, the question remains:  is He still ignorant?

I would venture to say, no, because He revealed much to the Apostles in the years between His Ascension and the exile of John.  But let's be clear, even with all that the Apostles reveal - through Christ - in the Scriptures, they still never give an exact hour or day.  Even with added revelation, Jesus is not contradicted.  Now, I know that some of you who read this are still going to balk and say, "But Jesus said we can't know the day or hour!  Plus, the Apostles all thought Jesus was coming back in their lifetime!"

Yes, they appeared to, that's true.  But the Apostles didn't have the Book of Revelation.  Peter, Paul, James - they all died before John received the Apocalypse (which is Greek for "Revelation," not "End of the World in a Fiery Cataclysm that Destroys All Life on Earth," which is how modern American film culture defines it).  It would make sense, therefore, that we would take all of the information that they give us in their letters, look at that in light of what Jesus says in the Gospels, and filter all of that through the Book of Revelation.  And when we do that, Jesus' admonition to watch the signs becomes way, way easier, and involves very little guesswork.

Now, some of you may still be saying, "We can't know, because Jesus said so!  Besides, eschatology doesn't matter; only the Gospel matters!"

I've actually heard these arguments, which is why I bring them up.  First of all, we do have to be careful not to follow every theory and every conspiracy claim out there, looking for far-reaching "examples" of The End in order to "prove" everyone wrong.  I agree with that, and I agree with the fact that we don't need to scour Youtube for "proof" that the Rapture is about to happen.  Eschatology should always be filtered and presented in light of the fact that Jesus can be trusted, that He is God, that He died for the sins of the world, rose again, and will return.  But to claim that eschatology doesn't matter is to claim that sections of the Bible don't matter, and if that were true, God wouldn't have revealed it.  Since God did reveal it, and since Jesus admonished us to study the signs, then it's probably something we should take seriously.

But there's a deeper issue with the above argument, the argument that appeals to one single verse, while denying the importance of a good deal of the New Testament:  if you approach this area of Scripture in this manner, how do you approach other areas?  If you deny the importance of key elements of the Scriptures, how do you know you have key elements of the Gospel correct?  My guess is, you may not.

"Well, all I know is that Jesus is returning, and that's good enough!"

Yeah, so did the foolish virgins in Matthew 25, yet they were shut out from the Bridegroom (Matthew 25:1-13).  So what do we do?  How do we study this topic without getting sucked into debates and far-flung theories and foolishness?

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, we study the Scriptures.  We learn what they say, we learn what they don't, and we recognize Paul's advice in Romans 14:1, "Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters."  And while many people would claim that the Rapture is a disputable matter, the Scriptures do give us quite a few signs.  So let's look at those, and then we'll see how it applies to the Gospel in the here and now.

The actual spelled-out doctrine of the Rapture is non-existent; we need to be clear.  There is no passage in the Bible that lays out, detail for detail, every single aspect of this event (there is nothing, for example, that says that we will all disappear, naked, leaving a pile of clothes behind).  Nonetheless, there is a large number of passages that addresses the concept (sort of like "the Trinity"), and Jesus Himself starts it off in Matthew 24:30-33; 36-41:

"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn.  They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.  And He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree:  as soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.  Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. . . .

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.  As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.  For in the days before the Flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the Flood came and took them away.  That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.  Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.  Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left."

Now, this sounds a lot like Jesus will "take" believers at the sign of His physical return in Revelation 19:11-16.  It really does.  And I'll admit, that may be the case.  But I want to temporarily call attention to only one factor here (we'll return to the rest in the next post!), and that is that His angels will "gather the elect . . . with a loud trumpet call."  This sentiment is echoed in I Thessalonians 4:13-5:11:

Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope.  We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.  According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.  For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.  After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.  And so we will be with the Lord forever.  Therefore encourage each other with these words.

Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.  While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.  You are all sons of the light and sons of the day.  We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.  So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled.  For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night.  But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.  For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.  He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with Him.  Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.

Okay, two things.  Firstly, notice Paul reiterates this idea of the "trumpet call of God" with the Rapture:  "For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.  After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air" (4:16-17).  Jesus is going to command something, "the archangel" is going to shout, there will be a trumpet call, and believers will "meet the Lord in the air."      
            
Clear?  Absolutely.  But notice something else, Paul uses Jesus' term "thief in the night."  Most of us, especially those raised on A Thief in the Night, have always believed that "thief in the night" refers to how the entire world, including Christians, will view the Rapture.  But Paul says something in this passage that many of us have long-overlooked:  "We know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night . . . but you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief" (5:2,4).  What's Paul saying?  If you're a believer, you shouldn't be caught off-guard by it - you'll know when it's coming.

Now, let's look at one more word from Paul.  In his first letter to the church at Corinth, he writes:

I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.  Listen, I tell you a mystery:  We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed - in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.  For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will all be changed.  For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality (15:50-53).

Paul's point here is fairly obvious, and that is that, since our sinful flesh cannot enter the kingdom of God, then, by the grace of Jesus (see 15:57), our bodies will be changed into our new, glorified bodies, in the same way that Jesus, after His resurrection, had a glorified body.  The second point here is that Paul tells us that the recurring trumpet motif is not just a random trumpet, but is the "last trumpet" in an uncounted series of trumpets.  Perhaps there will be two, maybe fifty - he doesn't say.  Only that, it is "the last trumpet," and for there to be a "last," there must be a first.

Have we heard any Divine trumpets?  Not yet.  Since, therefore, there hasn't been a first yet, there can't be a last.  But there is one more sign to look for, and we find this in II Thessalonians 2:

Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come (1-2).

In other words, the church at Thessalonica was worried that they had missed "being gathered to Him."

Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the Man of Lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.  He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God" (3-4).

Do we see this?  Do we see, now, why we cannot claim the Rapture to be "at any moment"?  Because Paul himself, who claimed to have visions of heaven (II Corinthians 12:1-7), tells us that "The Rebellion" (not "a rebellion," which happens all the time), and "The Man of Lawlessness" (again, not "a man of lawlessness," of which there are countless), must happen before we are "gathered to Him."  In other words, believers will not be taken by God until after the Beast has risen, and after he has set himself up as god.  Listen carefully:  God does not promise to save us from the Tribulation and persecution of the saints, but He does promise to save us from the coming wrath.

But wait, aren't they the same thing?

In certain novels and movies, yes, but in the Bible, they are different.  The difference is subtle, but clear:  God brings judgments onto the earth during the persecution of His Church, under the Satanic rule of The Man of Lawlessness, in order to demonstrate His power and His Sovereignty over His people, in an effort to bring about a great harvest of believers before the Last Days.  But once His church is removed, He pours out His wrath on the earth, and on the Kingdom of the Antichrist.  We'll explore those ideas more in following posts. 

The Flood of the Earth (The Rotti version)

Once, the sea-god became angry with mankind and decided to flood the whole earth.  In fact, the entire earth was destroyed, except for the peak of one mountain.  A man and his sister, along with several animals, escaped to the high mountain, and there survived.  However, there was nowhere to go.  So they asked the sea-god to bring the waters back down.  The sea-god answered them:  "I will bring the waters back down, but only if you can throw me a creature whose hairs I cannot number."

So the man and his wife threw a pig into the waves, but the sea-god could number the hairs of the pig.  So they then threw in a goat, but the sea-god could count those, too.  They then threw in a dog, and then a hen, but the sea-god counted both of them.  Finally, they threw in a cat, and this was more than the sea-god could take.  So he agreed that the waters would be returned to their place.  After that, an osprey flew over the mountain, sprinkling dirt on the water.  The dirt became dry land, and the man and his sister were able to descend the mountain.

- From the Rotti of Timor, Found in Flood Legends: Global Clues of a Common Event

Jesus, Interrupted

A couple of summers ago, I read a book by the much-revered Dr. Bart Ehrman entitled, Jesus, Interrupted.  If his name sounds familiar, that's because he is the author of Misquoting Jesus, a book that attempts to prove that the Gospels are fabricated.  Well, the basic premise of Jesus, Interrupted is no different.  Indeed, a quick look through his list of published works makes it clear that Ehrman has made a career out of attempting to prove that the Bible, rather than being the inerrant Word of God, is a very human book filled with contradictions and mistakes.  On page after page of Jesus, Interrupted, Dr. Ehrman hits his readers with one (supposed) contradiction after another.  This makes it a difficult book to review for two reasons.

First, Dr. Ehrman has a Ph.D. in theology, and is a leading expert on Biblical studies and the New Testament, and yet he makes so many errors in his analysis that he almost seems like an idiot.  He is obviously not, as he has multiple degrees and has immersed himself in this subject for several decades.  In spite of these credentials, however, many of his ideas and theories are simply untrue.  I don't mean that I disagree with him theologically (although of course, I do), but I mean to say that many of his statements are, historically, culturally and linguistically untrue - he misquotes and misrepresents both what the Bible says, as well as known history.

If I had to estimate, I would guess that about half of his claims are simply false.  He says, for example, that John and Mark give different days for the crucifixion.  This is blatantly inaccurate, as we'll see in a moment.  The Gospels of John and Mark do not differ when it comes to the timing of the crucifixion:  Jesus was arrested on Thursday night and then tried and executed on Friday; all four Gospels attest to this.

The rest of his "issues" fall into the category of apparent contradictions, but with varying levels of explainability.  To be fair, three-quarters of those do seem to be discrepancies within the Bible, but upon a little bit of digging, turn out not to be discrepancies at all.  The remaining issues, however, can be explained, but the explanations require a bit more interpretation than the text actually grants.  I freely admit that the handful of these incidents may be contradictions, but they are not, by any means, the all-out inconsistencies that Dr. Ehrman makes them out to be.  In other words, while they may be contradictions, there is no reason to definitively claim that they are contradictions.  Indeed, while explaining them does require a certain amount of interpretation, the fact that they can be explained nullifies his brazen statement that they are irreconcilable.
 
The second difficulty in analyzing this manuscript is the sheer scope of his book.  Since almost every page of his 300-page book features a "contradiction," I cannot hope to address every issue one at a time.  What I'm going to do, then, is speak on several examples from this wide range of explainability, and then take a look at his overall strategy and way of thinking and see where, on a fundamental level, his thinking is deeply, deeply flawed.


When Did Jesus Die?

This is a section to which he devotes several pages, but it is an excellent example of why all of us (Christians, atheists, agnostics, or anyone who reads his book) must be skeptical of the "facts" that Dr. Ehrman presents.  I'm going to sum up (with appropriate quotations) Dr. Ehrman's argument, and then present what the Bible actually says (also with appropriate quotations). 

There is a certain amount of background information needed to understand this issue.  Way back in Exodus, the Hebrews were enslaved by the Egyptians, and God - after some 400 years - announced that He was going to free His people.  In order to display His glory, God sent a series of plagues on the Egyptians, the last of which led to the death of every firstborn son in the nation.  God, however, enacted a system of mercy for the Hebrews in which they were to paint their doorposts with lamb's blood so that the Angel of Death could then pass over the houses of the Hebrews, sparing the children.  The next day, Pharaoh - whose own son was killed - sent the Hebrews away, granting their freedom.  God then required the Hebrews to commemorate that evening every year with a holiday known - appropriately - as "Passover."  When we get to the last night Jesus spent with His disciples before His crucifixion, we find the thirteen of them sharing the Passover meal.  In that year, the Passover took place on Thursday evening at sundown.

Now, there is another piece of information you need to know, and this regards the Jewish system of measuring time.  The Jews back then - and today, to some degree - measured the start of their day at sundown the day before, rather than midnight as we do.  So for us, today, Thursday begins in the middle of the night at midnight, and runs through sunup, noon, the afternoon, sundown, and on until midnight, where Friday begins.  For the Hebrews, Thursday would have started at sundown on Wednesday night, run through sunup, noon, the afternoon, and then ended when the sun went down Thursday night, at which point Friday would begin.  So for us, Jesus and His disciples had their Passover meal on Thursday night, but for them, it would have taken place at the beginning of Friday, since Friday started at sundown on Thursday evening.

Now, one last piece of information.  Every Jewish Friday (sundown on Thursday to sundown on Friday) was known as the Day of Preparation for the Sabbath; the Jewish Sabbath took place on Saturday (sundown Friday to sundown Saturday).  There were other Days of Preparation, however, which preceded every major holy day, including Passover.  So the year that Jesus died, the "Day of Preparation for the Passover" would have taken place from Wednesday night to Thursday afternoon, with Passover beginning Thursday night.  The Gospels, then, tell us that Jesus and His disciples ate the Passover meal on Thursday night, Jesus was arrested in the garden a few hours later, stood trial before the Sanhedrin, Pilate, and Herod, and was sentenced and executed during the day on Friday.

According to Dr. Ehrman, however, John does not say this.  Here's what Dr. Ehrman writes:

In Mark's Gospel, Jesus lived through [the Day of Preparation], had his disciples prepare the Passover meal, and ate it with them before being arrested, taken to jail for the night, tried the next morning, and executed at nine o'clock A.M. on the Passover day.  But not in John.  In John, Jesus dies a day earlier, on the Day of Preparation for the Passover, sometime after noon (26).

According to Dr. Ehrman, John tells us that Jesus died, not on Friday, but on Thursday, before the Passover Meal.  This is completely untrue, as John emphatically declares that Jesus died on Friday.  In John 19:31, John tells us, immediately following the death of Jesus in verse 30, that "it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath."  In other words, Jesus died the day before the Sabbath.  Since the Sabbath is on Saturday, Jesus must have died on Friday.  This is abundantly clear.  In fact, the rest of the verse clarifies the timing, and reads:  "Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down" (emphasis mine).  John is clear:  Jesus died on Friday.

So why, then, does Dr. Ehrman insist that John's version has Jesus dying on Thursday?  As proof, he quotes John 19:14, in which Jesus is sentenced to death:  "It was the Day of Preparation for the Passover; and it was about noon."  Hmm.  Jesus is sentenced on the Day of Preparation?  That would mean He died Thursday, during the day, right?  That does seem tricky, doesn't it?  But not if you understand how Passover worked.

In Exodus 12:1-20, God gives very specific instructions on how the Israelites are to commemorate the Passover.  It is to start with the Passover meal:  a slaughtered lamb whose blood is brushed around the door frame of the house, and whose roasted flesh is to be eaten "in haste [for] it is the LORD's Passover" (12:11).  Then what follows the next day is called The Feast of Unleavened Bread, a special holiday lasting for a week, in which no yeast is eaten at all, commemorating the speed with which they had to depart.  In Leviticus 23:4-8, we are told that The Passover takes place at sundown on the fourteenth of the month, and the Feast of Unleavened Bread takes place on the fifteenth of the month.  However, while these two feasts were separate feasts, they were also considered one and the same celebration because they both commemorated the night that God broke Pharaoh's resolve, and the Israelites were able to leave.  In Exodus 12, where God institutes the feast, they are both simply referred to, collectively, as the Passover.  In Luke 22:1, Luke even writes, "Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread, called the Passover, was approaching."   

What does this mean for the context of the crucifixion?  In Jesus' day, the meal took place on Thursday night (the start of the Day of Preparation for the Sabbath), and the Feast of Unleavened Bread would have started the next day, or Friday night - the beginning of the Sabbath.  John even mentions in 19:31 that the Sabbath was to be a "special Sabbath."  Why?  Because it was the continuation of the Passover holiday, the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.  So when we read that Jesus was sentenced on "the Day of Preparation for the Passover" in John 19:14, it's referring to the Feast of Unleavened Bread "called the Passover" (Luke 22:1).  When it says that Jesus was sentenced on the Day of Preparation for the Passover in John, it's referring to the Friday Passover, not the Thursday Passover.


Despite Dr. Ehrman's claim that "the contradiction stands" and that "this is a difference that can[not] be reconciled," there is, in fact, no contradiction.  John (as well as Luke, Matthew and Mark) claims that Jesus died on the Friday after the Passover meal.  So the first question we need to ask is whether or not Dr. Ehrman knows what he's talking about.  Is he, as it appears, unaware of the Passover regulations and the fact that it was, for practical purposes, divided into two different parts?  Does he not know that the Day of Preparation for the Passover can refer to both the Passover meal (the slaughtered lamb) and the Feast of Unleavened Bread?  Is he completely unaware of John 19:31, which clearly states that Jesus died on Friday, the day before the "special Sabbath"?  Possibly, but I hesitate to call him ignorant and stupid.  After all, he received his doctorate from Princeton University.  One does not simply walk in off the street and receive a doctorate from Princeton; you must both be accepted, and you must work hard to be awarded that degree.  He has also been a foremost Biblical scholar and educator for the last thirty years.  One does not simply study a topic for thirty years and know nothing about it.  So Dr. Ehrman may be ignorant, but I doubt it. 

This leaves us with one unsettling alternative:  he's being intentionally deceptive.  He knows what John says, he knows about the customs, but he chooses to ignore the evidence in favor of pushing his opinion that the Bible is no more divinely inspired than the Yellow Pages.  In other words, he's lying.  I am not a fan of calling someone I've never met, and whose motivations I do not honestly know, a liar, but these are the only alternatives.  This is the difficulty I mentioned early on in the post, because I do not know his heart.  Nonetheless, the choice stands:  he either does not know what he's talking about, or he's lying.

What I do know, however, is that he has made several claims that are simply false, and this is only the first.  The second claim I want to address, also tied to this issue, is the time at which Jesus was executed.  Dr. Ehrman tells us that Mark's Gospel reports that Jesus was crucified at nine o'clock in the morning.  He then attempts to prove that the Bible is contradictory by telling us that John claims that Jesus was crucified "about noon."  What Dr. Ehrman is doing here is twofold:  first, he's taking some liberty at translating the time of day (the New Testament translations are his own).  Mark does not actually say that Jesus was crucified at 9 A.M., and John does not tell us that Jesus was crucified at noon.  Mark uses the phrase "the third hour" (Mark 15:25), and John uses the phrase "the sixth hour" (John 19:14).

Now, aren't those still different times?  Yes, they are, but there are two pieces of information that Dr. Ehrman is leaving out, whether consciously or not.  The first is that Mark and John are not both referring to the crucifixion.  Mark states that "It was the third hour when they crucified him"; crystal clear, no issues.  John is equally as clear, though, in that "the sixth hour" is not when Jesus is crucified, but when Jesus is sentenced:  ""Pilate . . . brought Jesus out and sat down on the judge's seat at a place known as the Stone Pavement . . . It was about the sixth hour" (John 19:13;14).  In other words, Mark and John give two different times because they're describing two different events.  Dr. Ehrman, through very selective language, would have us believe that they are describing the same event, which is untrue.

But wait:  isn't the sixth hour later than the third hour?  So how could Jesus be sentenced three hours after He was nailed to the cross?  This is the other piece of information that Dr. Ehrman does not share with his readers.  Both the Roman and Jewish cultures had their own method for reckoning daylight.  The Romans - like us - began measuring the day at midnight.  So for them, the third hour was 3 A.M., the sixth hour was 6 A.M., and so forth.  The Hebrews measured their daylight separately from their day, so while their day began at sundown the night before, they measured daylight beginning at 6 A.M.  So in the Jewish reckoning, the third hour would have been 9 A.M., the sixth hour would have been Noon, and so forth.

To be fair, neither Mark nor John tell us which system they were using.  If they were both using the same system, then I agree it's a problem, because Jesus would have been crucified three hours before He was sentenced.  If, on the other hand, Mark is using the Hebrew reckoning, while John uses the Roman reckoning, then the conflict disappears.  In fact, the entire sequence of events makes perfect sense:

Pilate sentenced Jesus at 6 A.M. (sixth hour, Roman time, as John states), and Jesus is nailed to the cross at 9 A.M. (third hour, Jewish time, as Mark states).  Then what happened during the intervening hours?  Matthew and Mark both tell us that Jesus was flogged, beaten, and mocked by the Romans before being forced to take up His own cross and carry it outside of the city.  If Roman execution was anything like Death Row today, it is, frankly, astonishing that it only took three hours between His sentencing and execution.  While Dr. Ehrman would lead us to believe that there is no way whatsoever to reconcile when Jesus died in the two Gospel accounts, as we have seen, there is no contradiction.  Jesus was sentenced at 6 A.M. on Friday morning, nailed to the cross at 9 A.M. the same day, and was dead by 3 P.M. (see Luke 23:44-46).  Dr. Ehrman neglects to mention the two systems of reckoning time, but, more deceptively than that, neglects to mention that the Gospels give two different times because they are describing two different events.  While I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on some things, this one is hard to chalk up to ignorance:  the verses are clearly describing two different events, and Dr. Ehrman clearly glosses over that fact.  He would like us to believe that the Bible is untrustworthy on this point, but it simply isn't and, rather, he reveals himself to be the untrustworthy one.

The Historical-Critical Approach
Now, at this point, what I don't want to happen is for you all to think that I'm simply here to offer a rebuttal of his claims.  What I want, rather, is for us to look, critically, at his overall arguments, most of which revolve around what he calls the Historical-Critical Approach to Biblical Scholarship (4-5; 176-179).  I submit that we must apply the same method to his own claims.  When we do that - that is, when we approach his book with an eye to find the truth, not just blind belief in everything he writes - we see massive inconsistencies and inaccuracies.  So I want to spend a few moments examining some of his overall approaches to studying the Scriptures, and how that impacts his interpretation.  

So what is the Historical-Critical Method?  What it involves, at least according to him, is reading the Scriptures side-by-side so as to compare what they have to say on certain subjects.  What most of us tend to do, he asserts, is start, say, in Matthew, read it through to the end, and then go on to Mark.  We read Mark, then we read Luke, and so on.  While this is an acceptable method, Dr. Ehrman feels that his approach is far more scholarly, because it allows us to find discrepancies much more easily (6, 16).  What I'm going to do here is examine some of his claims about aspects of the Bible, and compare them to other claims he makes in regards to the same topic.  In other words, I'm using his approach to his own book. 



Who Wrote the New Testament?
This is a sticky subject, even for believers, because many of the books are anonymous; they have been attributed to certain authors, but they were not actually signed by those authors.  This does not, however, exempt Dr. Ehrman from historical accuracy, as he seems to feel that it does. Not surprisingly, he claims that most of the New Testament - particularly the Gospels - was written "many centuries later" by "authors who probably did not write them" [that is, Matthew didn't write The Gospel of Matthew, Mark didn't write Mark, etc.] (48; 102; see also pages 111, 135-136, 143-144).  Here's where it gets interesting:  first, he only gives one real reason as to how he knows they were written centuries later (and, as we'll see in a minute, that reason is unfounded).  Though he repeatedly claims, however, that there is "good reason" for believing this, he only expounds on one very shaky line of reasoning.  This is okay by me, however, since he then tells us that . . .

. . . there are reasons for thinking Mark was written first, so maybe he wrote around the time of the war with Rome, 70 CE . . . Matthew and Luke . . . say, ten or fifteen years later, in 80 to 85 CE.  John seems to be the most theologically developed Gospel, and so it was probably written later still, nearer the end of the first century, around 90 to 95 CE.  These are rough guesses, but most scholars agree on them (145). 

So which is it?  "Centuries later," or within the first century (and therefore within the lifetime of the apostles whom we believe actually did write them)?  Using his own critical method, we can see a massive contradiction in Dr. Ehrman's own philosophy, one which he makes no attempt to reconcile.  They were written, according to "most scholars," within the first century.  But we also know, according to most scholars, that they were written "many centuries later."   Once more, he is either ignorant of his own subject, and does not know what he wrote in his own book, or he is being intentionally deceptive.

So why doesn't he believe that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote the Gospels?  He creates a compelling argument, until one gets past the misdirection and conveniently-ignored historical facts.  I'll let him explain in his own words:

From the Gospels we learn that the disciples of Jesus, like him, were lower-class peasants from rural Galilee.  Most of them - certainly Simon Peter, Andrew, James, and John - were day laborers (fishermen and the like); Matthew is said to be a tax collector, but it is not clear how high up he was in the tax collecting organization, whether he was a kind of general contractor who worked directly with the ruling authorities to secure tax revenues, or possibly more likely, the kind of person who came banging on your door to make you pay up.  If the latter, there is nothing to suggest that he would have required much of an education.

The same can certainly be said of the others.  We have some information about what it meant to be a lower-class peasant in rural areas of Palestine in the first century.  One thing it meant is that you were almost certainly illiterate.  Jesus himself was highly exceptional, in that he could evidently read (Luke 4:16-20), but there is nothing to indicate that he could write [this is not true, as John 8:6 tells us that Jesus wrote in the sand] . . . As Galilean Jews, Jesus' followers, like Jesus himself, would have been speakers of Aramaic.  As rural folk they probably would not have any knowledge of Greek; if they did, it would have been extremely rough (105-106).

He then goes on to tell us that the authors of the Gospels were clearly fluent in Greek, but since Jesus' followers could not have been fluent in Greek, his followers could not have written the Gospels.  Therefore, he argues, the "authors were . . . unusually gifted Christians of a later generation" (106), who most likely came, as I noted "many centuries later."

Once more, Dr. Ehrman's seemingly-deceptive language would mislead, as he claims that none of Jesus' disciples spoke Greek, therefore none of the Gospels could have been written by His disciples.  Here's the problem:  two of the Gospels - Mark and Luke - weren't written by Jesus' twelve disciples, and the Church has never claimed them to have been.  He appears to be intentionally leaving this fact out when he claims that none of the Gospels could have been written by Jesus' disciples.  But this begs a bigger question:  were Mark and Luke able to write Greek?  Let's begin with Mark.

We know very little about Mark.  Most of what we know comes from the Book of Acts:  he was also called John (Acts 12:12,25 and 15:37), his mother's house became a secret church (Acts 12:12); he was the cousin of Barnabas (Col. 4:10); Mark accompanied Paul and Barnabas (13:5), and he and Paul had a major disagreement that strained their relationship (Acts 13:13; 15:36-39); Paul eventually forgave Mark (2 Timothy 4:11).  The only other piece of information we have on Mark comes from the church tradition (not the Bible, mind you) that he was a companion of Peter, and that his Gospel was actually a shaping and compilation of Peter's teachings on Jesus.

So what does this mean for our understanding of whether or not Mark wrote the Gospel of Mark?  It means he could have, since we have no idea whether or not he was educated - we don't even know what his occupation was.  While I agree that the ability to write in Greek was not a typical skill for blue-collar workers in that time period, Dr. Ehrman's implication is that, since Peter, Andrew, James and John were low-class fisherman, Mark didn't know Greek.  This conclusion is intellectually irresponsible.  That would be like saying that since my neighbor doesn't speak German, I don't either.  I do (sort of), and even if I didn't, it would be completely disconnected from his inability to speak that language.  So while Mark certainly might have been "unlettered," the fact is that we simply don't know, and can't conclude one way or the other.  To dismiss Mark as an author is unfounded.  At best, he did write the Gospel attributed to him, at worst, we simply can't be certain.

What about Luke?  Was he, too, an unlettered member of the Jewish lower-class? Not at all.  In fact, based on the content of his Gospel (and second volume, Acts), Luke appears to have been a Gentile . . . a Greek-speaking Gentile.  We know from Colossians 4:14 that Luke was a physician - so he was also an educated, Greek-speaking Gentile.  This means that Luke would have spoken, read, and written Greek, since Greek was the common written language of the Roman Empire.

Remember that the Roman Empire spread across three continents and consisted of hundreds of different territories.  Each territory was allowed to keep its own regional dialect (hence, Jesus and His disciples spoke Aramaic), but the Empire needed a common language to help keep it unified and running smoothly:  that language was Greek.  As a Gentile ("Greek") doctor, Luke would have been fluent in Greek.  Therefore, the claim that Luke's Gospel was written by someone of a "later generation" because Luke wouldn't have been able to write in Greek simply holds no water.  There is no reason, whatsoever, to believe that Luke wasn't written by Luke.

Yes, but doesn't that mean that Mark and Luke were second-hand accounts, and, therefore, unreliable?  Not at all.  While they were second-hand accounts, they weren't disconnected from the events.  Mark (who may have been a follower of Jesus, if the "young man" in Mark 14:51 is actually the author of that Gospel), was, as I mentioned, believed to have been a companion of Peter, as well as a companion of other disciples.  If this is true, then Mark wasn't just repeating hearsay, but he was repeating the accounts he received directly from their sources, sources who spent three years walking and talking with Jesus.  Luke, on the other hand, accompanied Paul and some of the other apostles, and Paul, while himself not an original disciple of Jesus, spent a great deal of time with "the brothers" in Jerusalem after becoming a follower of Jesus.  This is not, then, a word-of-mouth transmission of information subject to what I call "Telephone Mythology" (as Dr. Ehrman implies it would be on pages 146-147), but is transmission of information connected to the sources themselves.

I am not my wife (obviously), but after nine years of marriage, I know my wife well.  I know how she feels about various subjects, I know how she would respond in various situations, and I remember a lot of what we have been through together.  Now let's just suppose you invited me to see the new Star Wars movie.  I agree, and you ask if I want to bring her, too.  I'd tell you that she has no interest in seeing it.

Here's the question:  do you doubt my assessment of her because you're hearing it second-hand?  Of course not, because you would understand that I know my wife;  I know how she would react in this situation.  The gospels of Mark and Luke are no different.  Even though they (probably) weren't present with Jesus, we can trust their accounts because they knew the disciples.  So, once more, Dr. Ehrman's claim that Mark and Luke could not have been written by Mark and Luke - and that, even if they were, they cannot be trusted - has no basis in reality.

Now, what about the other two, Matthew and John?  Matthew, a tax-collector, and John, a fisherman, could not have written Greek, Dr. Ehrman claims, because they were lower-class peasants.  This claim brings us to the second part of the Historical-Critical approach, which is his insistence that we look past the text of the Bible and look to history, instead.  So we will look past the text of Dr. Ehrman's book, and look to history, instead.  In his own words:  Matthew is said to be a tax collector, but it is not clear how high up he was in the tax collecting organization, whether he was a kind of general contractor who worked directly with the ruling authorities to secure tax revenues or, and possibly more likely, the kind of person who came banging on your door to make you pay up.  If the latter, there is nothing to suggest that he would have required much of an education (105). 

This is untrue.  Matthew 9:9, Mark 2:14, and Luke 5:27 all tell us that Matthew (also called Levi) was situated in a "tax collector's booth" outside of Capernaum.  What does that mean?  It means that Matthew was in charge of collecting tariffs on goods coming into and leaving the city, a city that lay on the international trade route running from Damascus to the Mediterranean Sea.  Matthew, therefore, was not only responsible for collecting taxes from Jews, but was also responsible for collecting taxes from anyone who passed that way coming from various parts of the Roman Empire - citizens of Rome who would have spoken Greek as they traveled about internationally.  Mark also would have received orders from Rome (and sent trade receipts back to Rome, as well).  Therefore his job would have required him to be able to communicate in both Aramaic and Greek - including written language.  Matthew wasn't a low-class peasant who knocked on doors and dragged women and children into the street, forcing them to pay up, but a wealthy employee of Rome who dealt with clients both foreign and domestic.  This is not "possibly more likely"; it is a historical reality.

This leaves us with John.  John, as we know from the Scriptures, was a fisherman.  Dr. Ehrman is correct, in that John most likely couldn't read or write Greek (although he could have spoken it, since young children are more than capable of being bilingual, long before they are capable of reading and writing).  It's entirely possible, of course, that in the sixty years between the resurrection and the time he wrote his account, John learned to write fluent Greek, but I agree with Dr. Ehrman that "it hardly seems . . . likely" (107).  What Dr. Ehrman is neglecting to mention, however, is the regular use of scribes and translators.  For example, Romans, which begins with a greeting from Paul (indicating that the letter contains his thoughts), ends with the sentence:  "I, Tertius, who wrote down this letter, greet you in the Lord" (16:22).  Tertius was a scribe to whom Paul was most likely dictating his letter.  There are other examples within the Pauline letters.  In 2 Thessalonians 3:18, Colossians 4:18, Galatians 6:11 and 1 Corinthians 16:21, Paul attests that he wrote the closing of the letters "in [his] own hand."  The implication there is that sometimes Paul didn't write the letters in his own hand, but had them written on his behalf by someone else - especially when viewed in light of the insertion made by Tertius at the end of Romans.

Now if Paul, who was educated and able to write in Greek, still used a scribe, could John not also have used one?  Could that scribe not have translated John's Aramaic into Greek, for the purpose of sending the letters to a wider audience?  I realize that I am speculating, but that is the point:  so is Dr. Ehrman.  His assertion is that, since John couldn't write in Greek, he could not have written the Gospel that bears his name.  This makes two great assumptions:  1) that John couldn't write in Greek, and 2) that for him to write the Gospel, it had to be in his own handwriting.  While I agree in the likelihood of #1 (though that, too, is still an assumption), there is no reason to assume that #2 must be true.  The use of scribes and translators - especially in a multilingual society - was common, and there is no reason to dismiss the Gospel of John (or the rest of John's books) as forgeries. 

The Resurrection
There is one last "scholarly" technique that Dr. Ehrman uses when determining whether or not the miracles attributed to Jesus - particularly the resurrection - actually occurred.  Once more, I'll let him describe his approach in his own words:

Historians more or less rank past events on the basis of the relative probability that they occurred.  All that historians can do is show what probably happened in the past.

That is the problem inherent in miracles.  Miracles, by our very definition of the term, are virtually impossible events.  Some people would say they are literally impossible, as violations of natural law:  a person can't walk on water any more than an iron bar can float on it. . . . We would call a miracle an event that violates the way nature always, or almost always, works so as to make the event virtually, if not actually, impossible.  The chances of a miracle occurring are infinitesimal. . . .

By now I hope you can see the unavoidable problem historians have with miracles.  Historians can establish only what probably happened in the past, but miracles, by their very nature, are always the least probable explanation for what happened.  This is true whether you are a believer or not.  Of the six billion people in the world, not one of them can walk on top of lukewarm water filling a swimming pool.  What would be the chances of any one person being able to do that?  Less than one in six billion.  Much less. . . .

But what about the resurrection?  I'm not saying it didn't happen.  Some people believe it did, some people believe it didn't. . . . There can be no historical evidence for the resurrection because of the nature of historical evidence. . . . The resurrection is not least likely because of any anti-Christian bias.  It is the least likely because people do not come back to life, never to die again, after they are well and truly dead.  But what if Jesus did?  If he did, it's a miracle, and it's beyond historical demonstration (175-176).

At first glance, this sounds reasonable.  After all, six billion people can't resurrect, so the chances of one person resurrecting is . . . less than 1/6,000,000,000.  That's basic math, right?   I freely admit that on my first read through the book, I got what he is saying.  Since something has never happened before - or since - it's unlikely, from a statistical point of view.

But the logic is convoluted, and, once more, ignores some key facts.  Probability of any historical event is never determined by whether or not it has ever happened before, or whether or not it has happened since, but by the circumstances and evidence surrounding that particular event.  Think about his logic for a moment.

Using Dr. Ehrman's assertion, the probability of an emperor named Augustus reigning over the Roman Empire is virtually zero.  Why?  Because, prior to Augustus, there was never an emperor named Augustus, and there hasn't been one since.  Since that simply doesn't happen on an everyday basis, it can't have happened then, either. 

On the other hand, we know that Queen Elizabeth sits on the throne of England because, prior to her, there have been six different English monarchs bearing the name of Elizabeth, ruling either as Queen or as the spouse of a king.  So we believe that Elizabeth II is Queen of England, not because of her televised coronation, the speeches she has given, the countries she has visited, the films and photographs that have been published and released, the interviews given, or even the fact that her image is engraved on the currency, but, rather, because history has demonstrated that sometimes queens are named "Elizabeth."  Using Dr. Ehrman's own argument, Queen Elizabeth exists because there is a historical precedence for Queens named Elizabeth.

Sounds silly when it's put like that, doesn't it?

We know, in fact, that Elizabeth is Queen of England, not because of any historical precedence, but because the evidence surrounding her rule is overwhelming.  We know that Augustus reigned as Roman Emperor because of similar evidence (coins engraved with his image, his own writings, writings referring to him, decrees, statues, and the like), in spite of any lack of historical precedence.  I want to be clear:  Dr. Ehrman does discuss the role of historical evidence:  "Historians work with all kinds of evidence in order to show what probably happened in the past" (174), but very quickly (and subtly) redefines "evidence" as "historical precedence."

So what, then, is the probability of the resurrection?  The first evidence, of course, is the empty tomb.  And yet, while the tomb is empty, there are several possible explanations.  The first is that Jesus never actually died on the cross, that He survived the crucifixion and, once buried, managed to break free from the tomb.  The chances of this are slim to none, as the crucifixion process was designed to make death slow, but inevitable.

The position of the body on the cross would allow the prisoner to inhale, but not exhale.  In order to accomplish exhalation, he would have to lift up his body, pressing against the nails that were driven through his flesh, causing excruciating pain and muscle cramping.  However, the process was also aimed at maximizing blood loss, making the prisoner weaker as time progressed, until eventually the prisoner would become too weak to lift himself up, and would die of either cardiac arrest or asphyxiation. This process often took an entire day - sometimes even several days.  To speed things along, the Roman guards who oversaw the entire process would break the legs of the prisoners, preventing them from pushing up to breathe.

When it came time to break Jesus' legs, the guards realized he was already dead.  Now, these were Roman soldiers whose daily jobs involved confirming the deaths of their prisoners.  They felt Jesus was sufficiently dead, dead enough that it was unnecessary to break his legs.  Instead, just to be safe, they drove a spear up into his side, piercing his heart and the sac of water around the heart known as the pericardium.  So after three hours of blood loss and carbon dioxide build-up in the body, after being confirmed dead by the Roman soldiers whose jobs were to confirm death, and after having his heart run through with a spear (John 19:31-35), the argument that He never really died holds no water.

Let's suppose, though, that Jesus did survive the crucifixion.  Would He have been able to stand up, unwrap the burial clothes that had been - in effect - shellaced onto His body, roll away the massive stone that sealed the grave (Matthew 27:60, Mark 15:46, Luke 24:2, John 20:1), overpowered the Roman contingent guarding the tomb (we'll return to them in a moment), and convince His followers that He had risen from the dead, healthy and alive?

Like I said,  the argument that He never really died holds no water, so the probability of the resurrection has just increased slightly.

But this does leave us with the possibility that His disciples stole His body, which brings us back to the Roman guard that Pilate assigned to the tomb (Matthew 27:62-66).  The typical Roman guard was made up of sixteen men (though in some cases, only four), each of them highly trained and heavily armed.  Their job was to keep watch, in shifts, for twenty-four hours, making it virtually impossible for anyone to approach the tomb, roll away the stone, and steal the body.  Once more, then, the evidence in support of the resurrection mounts.

The last reasonable explanation for the empty tomb is that Jesus' body was never placed there to begin with.  Had that been the case, then the Emperor would have sealed and placed a guard in front of an empty tomb, which is highly unlikely.  Someone along the chain of command would have made a massive mistake, costing one (or many people along that chain) their lives.  The Romans weren't in the habit of screwing up a military command.  Plus, once news of the resurrection began to spread, the Romans would have done everything in their power to save face after such a colossal blunder; the easiest solution would have been to produce the body.

They didn't.

Add to this the fact that the ruling Jewish Council - who viewed Jesus' claim to be the Messiah as a massive heresy - would have done anything to squelch these rumors.  They also didn't produce the body.  Why not?  Because there appears to have been no body to produce.  The "natural" explanations for the empty tomb hold little to no water.  Therefore, for the time being, the most likely scenario is a resurrection.

But what if the empty tomb were made up?  What if it were a story written into the Bible "many centuries later," and there was never even an incident in Jerusalem?  The first argument, of course, is that, had there never been an incident, there would never have been Christianity.  What changed the lives of the disciples - so much so that they were all executed for their belief - was the resurrection.  If there had been no resurrection, and if the disciples had never believed there was a resurrection, their lives would not have been changed.  After all, Jesus taught a revolutionary message,  but He was not the first to spark a revolution.  Jesus performed miracles, but so did Elijah.  Yet when Elijah - and his successor, Elisha - left this earth, no one worshiped them.  Jesus' miracles were astonishing, but they were more astonishing because they were capped by Jesus' astonishing power to raise Himself from the dead.  If that had not occurred, Jesus would have unanimously been relegated to the list of "Amazing Prophets of God," not declared to be God Himself.  Without the resurrection, there would have been no Christianity.

The second argument is actually a piece of extra-Biblical evidence.  In 1878, a marble slab was shipped "from Nazareth" - no one is sure precisely where it was acquired - which reads, in part:  "By the decree of Caesar:  It is my will that graves and tombs remain undisturbed . . . however, if it is charged that another has . . . extracted the buried . . . or has displaced the sealing or other stones . . . it is my pleasure that the violator be sentenced to death."  The chiseling techniques and language indicate that the decree was carved sometime in the first century A.D.

This begs the question:  why would the emperor of Rome issue a decree prohibiting, on pain of death, the removal of a body from a tomb?  What kind of event in Israel during the first century could have caught the attention of Caesar?  Obviously the spread of the Christian faith.  While the decree of Caesar doesn't prove the resurrection itself, it does prove that the resurrection story wasn't written into the Bible several centuries later.

So let's take a moment and re-cap:  The probability that Jesus survived the crucifixion is virtually zero.  The probability that His disciples stole the body is virtually zero.  The probability that the resurrection was completely fabricated (either during that time or centuries later) is virtually zero.  If the arguments against the resurrection are virtually zero, then the probability of the resurrection has just increased dramatically.  This is how probability is determined in historical events; historic precedence has nothing to do with it.

I know I sound a bit like a broken-record here, but there are two possibilities as to why Dr. Ehrman makes the arguments that he does.  The first is that he truly does not know how historical analysis works.  In other words, he truly believes that historians determine the probability of an event by determining historical precedence, an argument that, I hope, I demonstrated is foolish.  The second, of course, is that he is being deceptive.

Swimming with the Current
Dr. Bart Ehrman is not alone.  For centuries, people have questioned supposed contradictions in the Bible.  Some of them are naturally curious and willing to learn.  Some are angry at God, and simply seeking to prove to themselves that He doesn't exist.  Some truly believe the contradictions cannot be reconciled, some truly believe they can.  Some don't care.

I say this because I want us to understand that Dr. Ehrman is not the dissenting voice.  Many of these arguments have been regurgitated over and over, and, truthfully, this isn't what bothers me.  What bothers me is his apparent unwillingness to reconcile the differences.  We've already looked at a few of them and seen that, with minimal reading, the "problems" simply disappear.  Yet rather than actually solve the problem, he simply parrots back what he was taught in seminary (sadly, this is a technique that I'm afraid, most of us as Christians do, too, but that's a different topic).

So this last part will deal with some of the other "problems" and contradictions that Dr. Ehrman brings to light.  Rather than simply regurgitate platitudes - or shrug my shoulders and say, "who cares?" - I am going to use the Bible, science, history, and logic to help us out.


The Genealogy of Jesus
Dr. Ehrman is right on this one:  Jesus' genealogy in Matthew is different from the genealogy found in Luke (35-39).  It just is.

Now, Luke works backwards, moving from Joseph all the way back through King David, through Abraham, to God.  Matthew works forward, starting with Abraham, down through David, to Joseph.  Once you manage to get one of them worked around in the same direction as the other, you'll notice something very peculiar.  From Abraham down to David, everything is perfectly fine and in-sync; no issues.  But after David, things get weird.  Matthew lists Solomon next, while Luke lists Nathan next.  From that point on, they are out of sync (for the most part) until they get to Joseph, at which point both of them remind us that he was not actually Jesus' father.

So what gives?  Why does Matthew list out David, Solomon, Rehoboam, Abijah, Asa, and so on, while Luke lists out David, Nathan, Mattatha, Menna, Melea, and so on?  Isn't that, you know, wrong?  Well, familiarity with the Kings of early Israel helps, because Matthew is following the royal lineage.  That is, Solomon was the successor to the throne after David, Rehoboam was Solomon's son and successor, etc.  Luke, on the other hand, appears to be following bloodline, as Nathan was one of David's sons, but he never took the throne.  Mattatha, Nathan's son, also never took the throne.  It appears, then, as if Luke is following the actual ancestors of Jesus, while Matthew is following the Davidic promise that the Messiah would be one of the kings of Israel and a son of David.

Now this is where I admit that it seems odd, because the reconciliation is weird, and, honestly, hard to brush aside.  We must admit, if we're honest, that even though there is an answer, it's not a very strong answer.   However, as I noted earlier, it is still an answer, and that is where Dr. Ehrman is mistaken once again.  His claim is that the difference is completely irreconcilable, but that claim isn't true.  There is an answer to the issue, no matter how much of a stretch it may seem.  So I will concede that this represents a difference in the Scriptures, but it is not, by any means, the trump card that disproves the inerrant nature of the Bible.    


Animals on the Ark
Since I have a vested interest in discussing Noah's Flood, I thought I'd address this.  Dr. Ehrman states on page 10 of his book that Genesis 7:2 contradicts Genesis 7:9-10.  The first verse, he tells us, informs the readers that Noah is to take seven pairs of every "clean" animal on the ark.  Verses 9 and 10, he informs us, indicate that Noah only took two pairs of every clean animal on the ark.

Verses 9-10 state no such thing.  Here's what they read in the New International Version, starting in verse 8:  "Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, male and female, came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah.  And after the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth."  Nowhere does this state that only two pairs of clean animals came onto the ark.  The word used is pairs.  As in, plural, or more than one.  While it doesn't say two pairs, the point, of course, is that verses 8-10 are simply telling us that the pairs of clean and unclean animals that were supposed to be on the ark were there.  It doesn't need to state how many pairs of each, since it did that in verse 2.

After all, using Dr. Ehrman's logic, we could just as easily assume that verses 8-10 imply that seven pairs of unclean animals came, instead of just the one pair.  Or maybe it meant one hundred pairs.  Or three thousand.  Why, I wonder, does Dr. Ehrman feel the need for verses 8-10 to give us a number, yet again?  I'm not sure, but I have a guess:  I believe that what he is doing is attempting to create an issue where none exists.  He is deliberately creating a contradiction out of thin air.  Of course, this leads once more to the question:  is it ignorance, or dishonesty?


Thessalonica:  Jews or Gentiles?
This is another example of Dr. Ehrman 1) creating a problem that doesn't exist and 2) ignoring Scripture that contradicts his theory.

His issue derives from the fact that, in Acts, Luke tells us that Paul, according to his custom, went to the synagogue first, converted some of the Jewish patrons there, and then went out into the city and brought the Gospel to the gentiles.  In 1 Thessalonians 1:9, Paul writes, "They tell how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God. . . ."  Dr. Ehrman's issue here is that if the church at Thessalonica used to worship idols, they must have all been gentile pagans, and could not, therefore, have been Jewish converts.  He asserts that the church could not have been comprised of both Jews and Gentiles, and that Acts is, therefore, unreliable.

The answer, of course, lies in the text of Acts itself.  Paul was a missionary to the Gentiles, Paul's primary focus was Gentiles, but he started in the Jewish synagogues first.  How does Luke phrase it in Acts?  "According to his custom."  So even though Paul preached to the gentiles most often, he also preached to Jews.  So why, then, is Paul addressing Thessalonians to Gentiles?

While Paul did go to the synagogues first (Acts 17:2), Paul's first converts were not only Jews, but also "many God-fearing Greeks" (Acts 17:4) - these would have been former pagans who had converted to Judaism, and now recognized Jesus as the Messiah.  Paul's description in Thessalonians, then, still fits the situation:  many of them did turn from idols when they converted to Judaism.  But there is another reason Paul would have singled out former pagans:  some time had passed, and the church was now primarily made up of Gentiles.

How do we know some time had passed?  1 Thessalonians tells us.  Notice how Paul uses the past tense to describe their conversions:  "you welcomed the message," "you became a model," "the Lord's message rang out from you" (1: 6,7,8).  The church, in other words, had time to grow, become an example to neighboring churches, and had begun to spread the Gospel on its own.  Dr. Ehrman leaves those verses out of his analysis, however.

Secondly, we also know that Paul's emissaries, sent to the church, had returned and reported back "what kind of reception you gave us [the emissaries]" (1:9).  Travel in those days wasn't quick, and this group of people had managed to go from Corinth (where Paul was) to Thessalonica, stay with them for an appropriate amount of time, and then return back to Corinth.  Not only had the church been around long enough that Paul was able - felt it appropriate - to send a group of people to check on the health of the church and give them the encouragement needed to keep growing, but there had also been enough time for those men to return in order to give their assessment.  Most scholars put the entire time frame between Paul's visit to Thessalonica and the writing of 1 Thessalonians at about a year, and the Biblical text supports that.

So here, according to the Bible, is a timeline:  Paul arrives in Thessalonica, converts Jews and Jewish converts, takes the Gospel to the gentiles in the city, plants a church, and moves on.  A year later, from Corinth, he sends a group of people to check up on the Thessalonian church, they return to Paul, and he writes a letter in which he commends their rapid growth, their shining example, and their missionary efforts.

Why, then, is it strange that he would address his letter, primarily, to Gentiles?   Once more, by ignoring certain passages and verses in the Bible, Dr. Ehrman is creating a problem that doesn't exist.  And, once more, is it ignorance, or dishonesty?

The "Q" Document
Dr. Ehrman spends a great deal of time discussing what is referred to as the "Q" document.  This document is believed to have been a prototype Gospel, which served as the inspiration for Matthew, Mark, and Luke.  While I could spend a great deal of time discussing the merits (and flaws) of this argument, I really only have time to make one point:  there is no Q.  It is all theory, 100% idea, with nothing substantial to prove it.

So when Dr. Ehrman - and many other scholars - say things like, "Mark and Q are our earliest sources" (153), or "Jesus is associated with John the Baptist at the beginning of Mark, at the beginning of Q . . . and at the beginning of John" (153-154), we must bear in mind that scholars do not have a Q document to which they can refer.  They cannot translate it, they cannot study it, they cannot date it, because no such document has ever been uncovered.  Has it ever existed?  I don't know, but it certainly doesn't now.  Such misleading language would have us believe that Mark, Matthew, and Luke did not originate with the people whom we believe wrote them, and it would have us believe that scholars can prove that the Biblical canon was no more inspired than the complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica.  Yet to claim that "Mark and Q are our earliest sources," but neglect to mention that "Q" doesn't exist . . . it's difficult not to assume dishonesty.   


What's the Point of This?
The issues discussed here are far from exhaustive.  As I stated earlier, Dr. Ehrman brings to light many of the "contradictions" he and other scholars have uncovered over the years, but, as I hope I have demonstrated, most of them rely on a mixture of speculation (rather than fact), arbitrary dismissal of texts, and - at times - deception.  I hope that, in reading this and other expert opinions, you will be able to think critically in regards to their arguments.

This book advertises itself as an "intelligent" attempt to discredit the Bible.  Jesus, Interrupted is nothing short of a relentless attack on the very foundations of Christianity, despite the author's claims to the contrary (59; 63).  But what happens when those who discredit the Bible are themselves discredited?

The prophet Isaiah once wrote, "The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God endures forever" (Isaiah 40:8).  The foundations of Christianity depend on the accuracy of the Bible, because they depend on four important facts:

1) God is holy
2) We have offended God
3) God loves us anyway
4) He proved it and fixed it through Jesus

The Bible reveals all four of these, and Jesus, Interrupted attacked all of them.  Yet its attacks have remained, for the most part, ludicrous attempts at the impossible.  On the contrary, what is happened is the revelation that these "scholars" are oftentimes simply wrong.  Their assertions are founded on little to no evidence; their claims are, at best, ignorant and at worst, outright lies.  Once more, then the Bible endures.  So the questions for you, reader, are this:  do you believe the Bible, or do you still dismiss it?  Do you believe that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead, or do you disbelieve?  And if you disbelieve, why?  It is certainly not from an intellectual standpoint, but, like Dr. Ehrman, must stem from either ignorance or dishonesty: you either don't know what the Bible says, or you tell yourself lies in order to continue to worship something other than the Creator.

Ultimately, what I pray I have done here is provide you, the skeptic, with the tools you need to start thinking critically about your own beliefs.  I also pray that I've given you sufficient reason to explore the Bible - not from a standpoint of derision - but of actual learning.  I pray that I have given you the tools to actually study the Bible for what it is:  the Word of God.  Stop lying to yourself, stop pursuing ignorance, and turn to Jesus.  And Dr. Ehrman, on the incredibly small chance that you read this, I would say the same to you, because as long as you're alive, it's not too late.

It's the End of the World As We Know It: The Two Witnesses

In the original Left Behind movie, the "two witnesses" of Revelation 11 are depicted as Rabbi-like old men in flowing robes, speaking cryptically to one of the main characters, and then spewing forth - let's face it - bad CGI fire from their mouths.  This, unfortunately, is the image most of us have in our minds about who - or what - the two witnesses are.  So, as always, let's read the Bible and try and keep an open mind as to what the Bible says, rather than what we think it should say:

So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll.  He said to me, "Take it and eat it.  It will turn your stomach sour, but in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey."  I took the little scroll from the angel's hand and ate it.  It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour.  Then I was told, "You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages and kings."

I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, "Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the worshipers there.  But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles.  They will trample on the holy city for forty-two months.  And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.  These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.  If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies.  This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.  These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want to.

Now when they have finished their testimony, the Beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.  Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.  For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial.  The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth (10:9 - 11:10).

Okay, so what did Left Behind get right?

1) It takes place in Jerusalem; 11:8 explicitly tells us that this happens in the city where the Lord was crucified.

2) Fire comes from their mouths and devours anyone who tries to kill them (11:5).  However, it should be noted that this is a gruesome, violent thing to watch someone be consumed with fire.  Don't be hardened by the CGI.

Some other things we know, for certain: 

1) It takes place between the sixth and seventh trumpets:

But after three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them.  Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here."  And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on . . . The second woe has passed [see 8:13]; the third woe is coming soon.

The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said. . . . (11:11-12; 14-15).

2) The Beast is already on earth, because he is the one who overpowers and kills them (11:7).

3) They resurrect, and are - literally - "raptured," or caught up in the air (11:11-12).

4)They have control over plagues, including turning water into blood (11:6).

5) Their "testimony" lasts for 1,260 days (11:3), and is given with an attitude of mourning (sackcloth represents mourning).

When you look at it, that isn't much.  So let's veer for just a second and discuss, again, how debatable certain things really are.  In my local church, we use a term:  "open-handed issues."  These are theological topics that, when it comes down to it, are disputable and shouldn't be used as a plumb line for heresy.  While the list of these "open-handed issues" may very well be longer than is Biblically warranted, in a case like this, I truly believe anything else we may believe on this matter may be disputable.  While I obviously lean towards certain interpretations, as you no doubt do as well, the real fact is that the Bible does not spell out much in regards to these witnesses.  So any approach to this topic that says, "you must believe this, or else!" is, frankly, sinful.  With that said, let's see some of these disputable matters.  

1) Timing.  Now, we know this takes place between the sixth and seventh trumpets, but what we don't know is what else is going on during this time.  For example, does their 1,260-day period of testimony coincide with the 42 months of Gentile control in 11:2, or is there staggered timing on that?  A straightforward reading of the text suggests they coincide, but that is an interpretative assumption.

Furthermore, does the 42-month period begin with the building of the temple, or has the temple been around for a few years, prior?  Perhaps it begins with the dedication and opening of the temple?  The text doesn't say, one way or the other.

Lastly, in terms of timing, where is this on the spectrum of the Beast Kingdom?  We know the Beast is here, but has he risen from the dead yet?  I would guess so, but it's unclear.  Does he arrive during their period of testimony, or before it even begins?  Also unclear.  It's the first time he is mentioned in Revelation, but how long has he been on earth prior to this mention?  Since the Fifth Trumpet?  Before then?   

2) The content of their testimony.  Not much exposition on this, because all we're told is that they are witnesses (11:3), and they will eventually finish their testimony (11:7).  It's probably a safe assumption that it's pro-Christ, perhaps even anti-Jerusalem [since Jerusalem is "figuratively called Sodom" here (11:8)], but exact words?  None given.

3) The identity of the witnesses.  Now, this is the big one, because there are a few different ways to reasonably take this, but since they contradict each other, we can safely say at least one of them is wrong; we just don't know which one.  There are two main schools of thought here, and I want to look at each of them from a Biblical perspective.

The first is that these two witnesses are literal, living breathing men.  A straightforward reading of the text allows for this:

They are called "witnesses" (3) - typically, people witness and testify.
They wear clothes (3)
They have mouths (5)
They can be harmed (5; 7)
They have bodies that lie in the streets of Jerusalem (8)
They are "two prophets" (10)
They have literal, physical feet (11)

A straightforward reading of this text gives the impression that these are two living, breathing people.  They are not angels, as some suggest, because they can be killed.  They are often called - quite literally - reincarnations of Moses and Elijah, but nothing in this text states that.  However, since it is a popular idea, we should talk about that for a moment.

The real gist of the argument comes from the fact that it is both Moses and Elijah who appear at the Transfiguration, and the "plagues" that the two witnesses bring upon the earth are similar to those brought down by Moses and Elijah.  Truthfully, that's all pretty circumstantial.  But what of the individual men themselves?  Is there anything to support the idea that either Moses or Elijah will return?

In regards to Elijah, Malachi the prophet commented that Elijah would come again:  "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes" (4:5).  However, Jesus clearly and without any ambiguity stated that John the Baptist "is the Elijah who was to come" (Matthew 11:14).  He also said, when asked if Elijah would come before the Messiah, "'To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things.  But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished.' . . . Then the disciples understood that He was talking to them about John the Baptist" (Matthew 17:11-13).  While it's possible - I suppose - that Elijah will come a third time, there's no real reason to think that.

As far as Moses goes, there is nothing whatsoever to indicate that Moses will somehow return to be one of the witnesses.  Not that I'm aware of, at least (but if you know of a passage that states that, let me know in the comments, please!).  So Elijah's "return" has already happened, according to Jesus, and there's no talk in the Scriptures of Moses returning.  Look, if you are someone who believes that Moses and Elijah will be the two witnesses in Revelation 11, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, because the Bible simply doesn't state - but it also doesn't give any indication that this view is true. 

I, personally, do not believe there's any evidence to support it, but the fact remains, the Bible does not identify them with specific people one way or the other, nor does it tell us, specifically, what is going on in the world at the time they appear, so identifying them with specific people alive here and now is also making large assumptions; maybe they're alive and preparing to witness, maybe not.  Maybe they are Moses and Elijah, maybe not.  Or . . . maybe they are symbols for something larger.

Look at verse 4:  "These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth."  So . . . any images of lampstands and olive trees anywhere else in the Bible?  Because that would be great.  Well, as it turns out, the very beginning of the Book of Revelation talks about seven lampstands:

"I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me.  And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and among the lampstands was someone "like a son of man," dressed in a robe reaching down to His feet and with a golden sash across His chest . . . In His right hand He held seven stars. . . .

Then He placed His right hand on me and said . . . "The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in My right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this:  The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches" (1:12-13; 16; 17; 20, emphasis mine).

Could the "lampstand witnesses" be symbolic of two churches?  If so, which two?  Moreover, what of the olive trees?  Any passages that use "olive trees" symbolically?  Well, Paul uses the image of an olive tree to depict the nation of Israel/Gentile church in Romans 11:

If some of the branches have been broken off [i.e., Israel], and you, though a wild olive shoot [i.e., Gentile believers], have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, do not boast over those branches (17-18).

Here, Israel and the Gentile world are both depicted as olive shoots.  Paul, in context, is talking about Israel's rejection of Jesus and God's subsequent "grafting" of Gentiles into the Church, but the fact remains that he is most definitely referring to both Israel and Gentiles as two distinct olive branches.  Elsewhere, Israel is depicted as an olive tree:

The LORD called you a thriving olive tree
     with fruit beautiful in form.
But with the roar of a mighty storm
     He will set it on fire,
     and its branches will be broken (Jeremiah 11:16).

Hmmmm.  So, lampstands stand for churches, and olive trees stand for both Gentiles and Jews.  Of course, for me, the real test is whether or not a passage in the Bible actually puts these two images together.  Turns out, Zechariah does just that:

Then the angel who talked with me returned and wakened me, as a man is wakened from his sleep.  He asked me, "What do you see?"

I answered, "I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lights on it, with seven channels to the lights.  Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left."

I asked the angel who talked with me, "What are these, my lord?"

He answered, "Do you not know what these are?"

"No, my lord," I replied.

So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel:  'Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty.

"What are you, O mighty mountain?  Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground.  Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of 'God bless it!  God bless it!'" . . .

. . . Then I asked him, "What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?"

He replied, "Do you not know what these are?"

"No, my lord," I said.

So he said, "These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth" (Zechariah 4:1-7; 11-14).

Okay, as always, context is important, so it is truly in your best interest to go back and read Chapters 1-4.  But the gist of them is this:  God calls Israel to return from Babylon with a promise to restore Jerusalem and Israel, destroy the nations who mistreated her, and declare that His House would be rebuilt (Chapters 1-2).  He also anoints Joshua as High Priest of the new temple (Chapter 3), and appoints Zerubbabel as the builder and chief architect (Chapter 4).

It appears, then, as if the two olive trees represent Joshua and Zerubbabel, the two men specifically anointed by God in order to build and maintain His House.  It is interesting to note that John, in Revelation, references Zechariah 4:14 when he calls the two witnesses "The two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth" (Revelation 11:4).

So what do we have?  We have lampstands that represent churches (Revelation 1), olive trees that stand for both Jews and Gentiles (Romans 11), and olive trees - anointing a lampstand - that stand for two men who serve God and build His Church, both physically and spiritually.  In addition, John does spend time in Revelation differentiating between Jewish and Gentile believers.  Even further, still, we have Joshua, who represents "the priesthood of God" in Zechariah, and Zerubbabel, the Governor, who represents the Kingship of Israel.  One, in other words, represents the physical people of God, the other represents the spiritual people of God.     

The possibility, then, is that these two witnesses stand for the Gentile and Jewish believers during this time period.  Now, this interpretation has problems - most notably that "their bodies" lie in the streets of Jerusalem, a difficult feat if we're talking about a large group of hidden believers - but it is plausible.  It is, for instance, plausible if the group of believers has massively dwindled by this point, because of the genocide of the Beast, but that idea is highly speculative, and should not, in any way, be taken as stated Biblical truth.  My point is that interpreting the two witnesses as the two facets of the Church is plausible, but the most straightforward reading of the text still indicates that these are two actual men.

Bottom line: exactly how to take this passage is one of the unknowable parts of this book that I mentioned here.  Of course, that begs the question:  why bother to bring this up, if it is, indeed, "unknowable"?  Because how we address this issue is reflective of how we view the urgency of the Gospel.  Look, if we're studying this - and this applies to eschatology in general - if we're studying this with the purpose of knowing God and His Word, and of knowing how to identify prophetic events as they occur in order to be witnesses to those around us, then I'm all for it.  If two men show up in Jerusalem and start testifying to the Gospel, and they are able to breathe fire from their mouths, then we (or Christians who come after us) can turn to this passage and show people that the Bible is true, and urge them to follow Jesus.  It is a phenomenal witnessing tool.

But, if we treat this as some sort of riddle to be solved for our own intellectual curiosity, or a mystery to be decoded, and we start posting videos and websites making prophetic announcements that are unbiblical, then we have become false prophets, plain and simple.  I've seen people who have tried to "identify" these witnesses, and they've claimed that we would see them by the end of 2014.  Well, that failed, so the date changed to 2015.  Well that obviously failed, too, so now they're saying we'll see the two witnesses emerge by the end of 2016.  Folks, if someone is prophesying - not discussing, but actually proclaiming - future events, and it turns out their prophecies weren't true, they are false prophets.  Stop following them.

We'll know the witnesses when - if - we see them.  We know someone will see them; maybe we'll be here, maybe not.  It may not happen for another fifty years.  What I do know is that until it does happen, we still have the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  These witnesses are meant to point back to Him, as is everything in the Bible, but if your gospel is dependent on your interpretation of these witnesses being correct, then you need to reorient yourself on the Good News of Jesus:  He came, lived, died, and rose again because He loves sinners like you, me, and the rest of the world.  I say all of this with the full disclosure that I have had to reorient myself to the Gospel, too.  I just mentioned the fact that these two witnesses were prophesied to appear in 2014, right?  I know that, because I was following that channel for a while, and it took the guy being dead wrong about his "Spirit-filled revelation" for me to return to the Scriptures.

My reasoning for bringing up debatable topics is always because I want us to return to the Scriptures.  I want us to see what the Bible says about certain topics - especially the debatable ones - so that we don't get caught up in "proving" our viewpoint at the expense of our witness.  And I certainly don't want any of us to get caught up, even momentarily, with believing false prophets.  So my argument, as always, is this:  read and know the Scriptures - all of them - but do not allow yourselves to be caught up in "passing judgment on disputable matters" (Romans 14:1), but, rather "make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification" (14:19). In other words, let's proclaim the Gospel.